Two Gods of the Old Testament (The Father and the Son)

It is interesting that most bible believers embrace one or three (three in one) God(s)

Old Testament believers – one
New Testament believers – three

Neither is right!

The Bible Reveals Two God Beings

Christ came to reveal the Father

Matthew 11:27 All things have been delivered to Me by My Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father. Nor does anyone know the Father except the Son, and the one to whom the Son wills to reveal Him.

They did not know Him

They had lost this knowledge which has largely remained lost until this day

Tripartite division of Old Testament

Luke 24:44 Then He said to them, These are the words which I spoke to you while I was still with you, that all things must be fulfilled which were written in the Law of Moses and the Prophets and the Psalms concerning Me.

He is speaking of Himself – so He had to have existed during that time.

As we go along we will see that there have always been two separate distinct persons in the God Family.

They are eternal and have always existed. As we go along, it can be shown that Christ was not an angel or a created being, but a God along with the Father [I bring this up because some people believe it to be the case]

We will spend most of the time in the Old Testament, but we will start with a couple of scriptures in the New Testament

John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
John 1:2 He was in the beginning with God.
John 1:3 All things were made through Him, and without Him nothing was made that was made.

John 1:14 And the Word became flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father, full of grace and truth.

[See also: No Divinity in The Trinity]

1 Corinthians 10:4 and all [speaking of the Israelites :1-2] drank the same spiritual drink. For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ.

[See also: The God of the Old Testament]

Here we will show proofs in each of these sections; the Law, Prophets and Writings

We will by no means go through all of them

Law

(First five Books of the Bible)

Let US Make Man in OUR Image

Genesis 1:26 Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness;

Let US make man

Who made man?

Genesis 2:7 And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being.

So God is not talking about anyone or anything else

OUR Image

God is a person (Job 13:8 (KJV); Hebrews 1:3), with a spirit body (Daniel 7:9–14; 10:5–19; 1 Corinthians 15:44,49; Philippians 3:21) that has shape (John 5:37) and form (Philippians 2:5–7; 3:21).

The scripture talks about His arms (Psalm 44:3; John 12:38), back parts (Exodus 33:23), breath (Genesis 2:7), ears (Psalm 18:6; 34:15), eyelids (Psalm 11:4), eyes (Revelation 1:14; Psalm 11:4; 18:24; 33:18), face (Deuteronomy 34:10; Genesis 33:10; Exodus 33:11), feet (Psalm 18:9; Ezekiel 1:26; 24:10; 1 Corinthians 15:27; Hebrews 2:8; Revelation 1:15; 2:18), fingers (Exodus 31:18; Psalm 8:3–6), hair (Daniel 7:9; Revelation 1:14), hands (Psalm 102:25–26; Hebrews 1:10), head (Revelation 19:12, 1:14; Jeremiah 19:5, 32:35), heart (Genesis 6:6; 8:21), lips (Isaiah 11:4; 30:27), loins (Ezekiel 1:26–28; 8:1–4), mouth (Numbers 12:8; Isaiah 1:20), nostrils (Psalm 18:8), palm (Isaiah 49:16), tongue (Isaiah 30:27), voice (Psalm 29:1–9; Hebrews 12:19, 26; Revelation 1:10; 10:3–4; Revelation. 14:2) and waist (Isaiah 11:5).

A case can be made that this even goes beyond this and can refer to God making us or bringing us to resemble His character – but we will have to save that for another time.

This shows that we look like God does – because we were made in their image and likeness.

OUR Likeness

Genesis 1:21 So God created great sea creatures and every living thing that moves, with which the waters abounded, according to their kind, and every winged bird according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.
Genesis 1:24 Then God said, “Let the earth bring forth the living creature according to its kind: cattle and creeping thing and beast of the earth, each according to its kind”; and it was so.
Genesis 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth according to its kind, cattle according to its kind, and everything that creeps on the earth according to its kind. And God saw that it was good.
Then in :26 we are made after the God-kind
Genesis 1:26 Then God said, “Let Us make man … according to Our likeness;

Some have said that these plural pronouns refer to a God with His angels. He cannot be referring to any other spirit being  The (Angelic Realm) message showed how most of them have the faces of animals.

Not only that, but scripture shows that it was not the angelic realm that did the creating.

All Things Created Through Christ

All things were created through Christ (including the angels)

Ephesians 3:9 and to make all see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the ages has been hidden in God who created all things through Jesus Christ;

It is very clear here that the “Us” and “Our” in Genesis 1:26 refers to the fact that it was both God and Christ that created man – it was God the Father doing it by and through Jesus Christ (Colossians 1:16)

Royal “we” or majestic plural

Another argument that is brought up:

This is where speakers, the royals, refer to themselves using a plural form. Now-a-days it is sometimes used by people who hold higher offices.

The problems with this:

This is not a Hebrew concept
The Hebrews never employed this style of speaking or writing

Developed by the Greeks a long time later

And as we will see, our argument in no way hinges on this point alone

ELOHIM is Plural

Also in this verse (Genesis 1:26), the word for God is translated from the Hebrew “elohim”

It is a plural form of El and Eloah

Elohim has been called uniplural or a collective noun so when it refers to the group as a unit, then it takes a singular verb. If it refers to the individuals in the group or the parts that make up the group, then the verb should be plural.

Example of deer:

One deer was in the pasture. Many deer were in the pasture.

Depending on the verb with it, it is understood to be singular or plural. This concept is understood or rejected based on other wrong concepts (one God or three-Gods-in-one)

1. The class describe their vacations.
2. The whole class meets at 3 PM.

1. class – individuals – (see the word, their…hint to plural) describe
2. class – one group – singular – meets

Elohim With a Singular Verb

Genesis 1:27 So God created man in His own image;

So THEY start out with a plan in :26 and in :27 One of them executes it (and which One was that – hint Ephesians 3:9 that we just read)

Elohim With a Plural Verb

Genesis 35:6–7 God appeared

Genesis 20:13 God caused me to wander from my father’s house…

2 Samuel 7:23 God went

John Smith Example

There is a man named John
John is with Smith
John is also Smith

How can this be? Because John is the son of Smith which is the surname.

It really should not be that difficult to see how Elohim can be two separate beings. The prophets understood this:

The Prophets

Jeremiah

Jeremiah 23:5 “Behold, the days are coming,” says the LORD [YHVH; Father], “That I will raise to David a Branch of righteousness; A King shall reign and prosper, And execute judgment and righteousness in the earth.

Jeremiah 23:6 In His days Judah will be saved, And Israel will dwell safely; Now this is His name by which He will be called: THE LORD [YHVH; Son] OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.

[The Father is saying to the Son and BOTH are called YHVH]

Zechariah

Zechariah 4:8 Moreover the word of the LORD [YHVH] came to me [Zechariah], saying:

So here is what YHVH is saying:

Zechariah 4:9 “The hands of Zerubbabel Have laid the foundation of this temple; His hands shall also finish it. Then you will know That the LORD [YHVH] of hosts has sent Me [the One who is talking; YHVH] to you.

In this case both are considered YHVH [the eternal and self existing One] which they both are.

Also: Zechariah 2:8-11; 6:9, 12–15

Isaiah

It’s sprinkled throughout the Bible if we have an eye to see it.

Isaiah 34:16 “Search from the book of the LORD, and read: Not one of these shall fail; Not one shall lack her mate. For My mouth has commanded it, and His Spirit has gathered them.

Though most of the time YHVH refers to the one that became Jesus Christ [See The God of the Old Testament]

See also: Isaiah 29:22–23; 45:1; 62:6–7

In my Bible, the non scriptural heading says: The Futility of Idols

Isaiah 41:21 “Present your case,” says the LORD. [Isaiah is quoting the LORD, so the LORD is not speaking about Him and Isaiah] “Bring forth your strong reasons,” says the King of Jacob.
Isaiah 41:22 “Let them bring forth and show us what will happen; Let them show the former things, what they were, That we may consider them, And know the latter end of them; Or declare to us things to come.
Isaiah 41:23 Show the things that are to come hereafter, That we may know that you are gods; Yes, do good or do evil, That we may be dismayed and see it together.

For those that believe in the “royal we” this passage is not explainable as it mentions “together”.

Daniel

Daniel 7:9 “I watched till thrones were put in place, And the Ancient of Days [God the Father] was seated; His garment was white as snow, And the hair of His head was like pure wool. His throne was a fiery flame, Its wheels a burning fire;
Daniel 7:10 A fiery stream issued And came forth from before Him. A thousand thousands ministered to Him; Ten thousand times ten thousand stood before Him. The court was seated, And the books were opened.
Daniel 7:13 “I was watching in the night visions, And behold, One like the Son of Man [Christ], Coming with the clouds of heaven! He came to the Ancient of Days, And they brought Him near before Him.
Daniel 7:14 Then to Him was given dominion and glory and a kingdom, That all peoples, nations, and languages should serve Him. His dominion is an everlasting dominion, Which shall not pass away, And His kingdom the one Which shall not be destroyed.

Psalms (Writings)

Other Plural Nouns Referring to God

Ecclesiastes 12:1 Remember now your Creator in the days of your youth, Before the difficult days come, And the years draw near when you say, “I have no pleasure in them”:

(YLT) Remember also thy Creators in days of thy youth, While that the evil days come not, Nor the years have arrived, that thou sayest, ‘I have no pleasure in them.’

Job 35:10; Proverbs 9:10 Holy Ones or Holies; Proverbs 30:3; Hosea 11:12

Psalm 45

Psalms 45:6 Your throne, O God, is forever and ever; A scepter of righteousness is the scepter of Your kingdom.
Psalms 45:7 You love righteousness and hate wickedness; Therefore God [elohim], Your God [elohim], has anointed You With the oil of gladness more than Your companions.

Hebrews 1:8 But to the Son He says: “YOUR THRONE, O GOD, IS FOREVER AND EVER; A SCEPTER OF RIGHTEOUSNESS IS THE SCEPTER OF YOUR KINGDOM.
Hebrews 1:9 YOU HAVE LOVED RIGHTEOUSNESS AND HATED LAWLESSNESS; THEREFORE GOD, YOUR GOD, HAS ANOINTED YOU WITH THE OIL OF GLADNESS MORE THAN YOUR COMPANIONS.”

Psalm 110

Psalms 110:1 A Psalm of David. The LORD said to my Lord,”Sit at My right hand, Till I make Your enemies Your footstool.”

This is called the most quoted Old Testament verse in the New Testament. When we look at these verses it is VERY clear that this phrase is “The LORD said to my Lord” is God the Father speaking to the Son, the one that would become Jesus on Earth.

In explaining to those who doubted who He was, Jesus spoke the following words quoting Psalm 110:1:

Matthew 22:41 While the Pharisees were gathered together, Jesus asked them,
Matthew 22:42 saying, What do you think about the Christ? Whose Son is He? They said to Him, “The Son of David.”
Matthew 22:43 He said to them, How then does David in the Spirit call Him ‘LORD,’ saying:
Matthew 22:44 THE LORD SAID TO MY LORD, “SIT AT MY RIGHT HAND, TILL I MAKE YOUR ENEMIES YOUR FOOTSTOOL” ‘?
Matthew 22:45 If David then calls Him ‘LORD,’ how is He his Son?
Matthew 22:46 And no one was able to answer Him a word, nor from that day on did anyone dare question Him anymore.

The answer to the question the Jesus posed to them is that He was formerly the Lord that sat at the right hand (the number one position of authority after God the Father) and He became flesh (John 1:14) to fulfill prophecy and His purpose.

Jesus is also recorded as quoting this verse in Mark 12:35-37 and Luke 20:41-44. Peter also quotes Psalm 110:1 in Acts 2:34-35 saying that the verse cannot possibly refer to David but has to refer to Christ whom they crucified (Acts 2:36).

Through the lens of the New Testament it is revealed to us the incredible truth that the Family of God is comprised of two beings (not one or three) and that David was in the spirit when he wrote this – the spirit being the power of God and not a separate personage.

Verse 4

Psalms 110:4 The LORD has sworn And will not relent, “You are a priest forever According to the order of Melchizedek.”

Further proof is seen in this scripture when it states that you this being stated throughout the chapter is:

Psalms 110:4 …a priest forever According to the order of Melchizedek.

The book of Hebrews makes this abundantly clear in many verses (Hebrews 5:10, 6:20, 7:3, 15, 17, 21)

Hebrews 5:5 So also Christ did not glorify Himself to become High Priest, but it was He who said to Him: “YOU ARE MY SON, TODAY I HAVE BEGOTTEN YOU.”
Hebrews 5:6 As He also says in another place: “YOU ARE A PRIEST FOREVER ACCORDING TO THE ORDER OF MELCHIZEDEK”;

Much of the rest of the chapter is prophetic and can also be confirmed in the New Testament by scriptures describing events at the RETURN of Christ.

But the main purpose of this paper is to demonstrate the answer without using the obvious scriptures above.

Proof from the Old Testament

While it is not nearly as easy and straightforward as using the entire Bible, it is nonetheless possible.

Most of the argument against this referring to one God speaking to Another is based on the fact that the “second” Lord is translated from adon or adoni. It is surmised that since this word is always used to refer to a man that it cannot refer to a God being.

There are several problems with this:

  1. Though adoni always refers to a human it is not a rule that it has to
  2. The Hebrew doesnt contain vowels so adonai and adoni and adon are written the same
  3. David wrote the Psalm, so it could not refer to him since he was king of Israel and had no “lord”Many will want to argue those points but the more convincing proof is found later in the chapter.

Verse 5

Psalms 110:5 The Lord is at Your right hand; He shall execute kings in the day of His wrath.

This scripture once again refers to the being at the right hand of YHVH.

Psalms 110:5 The Lord is at Your right hand; He shall execute kings in the day of His wrath.

But this time the word for Lord is translated from adonai. So we already see a discrepancy in how the Masoretes (sopherim: scribes) decided to interpret these two scriptures (:1 and :5). BUT this is not the most egregious error that they committed.

The Masoretes who were largely responsible for the preservation and production of the Masoretic text, made 134 emendations of YHVH to adonai and Psalm 110:5 is one of the places. So in actuality it reads, “The LORD (YHVH) is at Your right hand” – in other words it is YHVH at the right hand of YHVH.

The Masoretes were/are unitarians (belief in just one God being) and changed the text to suit their understanding of God. In this chapter is indisputible evidence of two God beings in the family of God – the Father in greater authority and with the Son being of equal power at His right hand (Philippians 2:6).

So now when we read the first verse it is easily understandable as the Father talking to the Son or God talking to God, when David says, “The LORD said to my Lord.”